, Donmehs and Extra - Terrestrials
It is generally understood
that the Islamic Caliphate came to an end in 1924, with the rise of Kemal
Ataturk, but the effective end of the Caliphate occurred in July 1908, in line
with the prophecies of the messenger of Allah that Constantinople would fall
into the hands of 70,000 sons of Isaac posing as Muslims. 'Acacia', an official
Masonic publication of 1908, stated:
"A secret Young Turk council was
formed and the whole movement was directed from Salonica. Salonica, the most
Jewish town in Europe - 70,000 Jews [Sons of Isaac] out of a population of
100,000, was specially suited for the purpose. It already contained several
[Masonic] Lodges, in which the revolutionaries could work without being
disturbed. These Lodges are under the protection of European diplomacy. And as
the Sultan was without weapons against them, his fall was inevitable... On the
1st May, 1909, the representatives of 45 Turkish Lodges met in Constantinople
and founded the 'Grand Orient Ottoman'. Mahmoud Orphi Pasha was nominated Grand
The above evidence was found in
'Occult Theocracy' by Lady Queenborough, who then goes on to say:
complete the information, we may add that two of the Salonica lodges, those of
Macedonia and Labour & Lux were connected with the Grand Orient of Italy
Both the Grand Orient of France and Italy were, and still
are, manifestly secular, and overtly atheistic. More detailed information on
how such secretive establishments undermined the Islamic Caliphate as well as
engineered the Bolshevik Revolution can be found in David Pidcock's book 'Satanic
Voices - Ancient and Modern'.
The warnings of prophet Muhammad
link the fall of Constantinople with the coming out of Dajjal after the Great
War, and it is clear that Theodor Herzl's scheming with the Young Turks and
machinations against the Sultan, culminating ultimately in the realisation of
his dream, the State of Israel in the land of Palestine, is inseparably linked
with those processes preparing the ground for the Antichrist. The Jews,
rejecting Jesus as the Messiah, still await their Messiah, and only recently
the word has gone round in Jewish communities again that his coming is near. We
can be almost sure that what they are awaiting is the false Messiah we have
been warned of. As they have been looking out for their 'saviour' for quite
some time, many a lesser Dajjal caught their attention since the days of the
prophet, and one of those relates closely to Salonika and Turkey. The strange
story surrounding his cult which will be related in the following can also
serve as a reminder how easily Islam gets embroiled and mixed up in murky
waters, raising question marks over exclusively Jewish Sufi groups in Britain
today, or the involvement of Sufi orientated "Muslims" in occult
"geophysical" societies in East London.
The Times History of The [Great] War
says about Salonika: "The Greeks had to wait 483 years before the
Theotokos 'regained her own.' But the Salonika which their armies entered in
1913 was radically a very different city from the Salonika of 1430. The Turks
had opened it to Jewish immigration, and the Sephardim, fleeing from the
intolerance of the most Catholic kings of Spain, had succeeded in making it in
the course of four centuries into half a Jewish city. Of its 150,000
inhabitants some 70,000 were Jews...".
In addition to these Jews were a group
of Crypto-Jews, who, according to Sir Gerard Lowther, "externally"
professed "Islamism", these were, and still are, referred to as
"The Donmeh". A more recent Jewish source, 'Acts of Faith' by Dan
Ross, gives the following, up to-date picture of these people:
Wife-Swapping Moslems Waiting for a
"Chapter Five: The Donmeh of Turkey:
Not long after World War I, European
diplomats faced one of the most bewildering dilemmas in the annals of Jewish
identity. It occurred when the Ottoman Empire was carved into the two new
nations of Greece and Turkey. The two states agreed on a population exchange to
transfer their peoples to match the new boarders... In the Treaty of Lausanne,
endorsed by most European powers in 1923, the two nations agreed to define
identity according to religion... With only a few exceptions, Moslems had to
move to Turkey and Orthodox Christians to Greece. Jews, where they happened to
live, were allowed to stay there. It became one of those occasions when the
question "Who is a Jew?" was of more than academic interest."
"The city most affected by the
population exchange was the old Turkish commercial centre, Salonika (now
Thessaloniki, Greece). It was perhaps the most Jewish city in the world. For
centuries, until it was captured by Greece in 1912, more Jews had lived in
Salonica than Greeks and Turks combined. It was the capital of Sephardi Jewry
and, in more prosperous times, of the entire Jewish world. Jewish merchants had
run the great trading houses, Jewish scholars headed the city's academies, and
Jewish longshoremen controlled Salonika's docks. Only Christians rested on
Sunday and only Moslems on Fridays, but the entire city shut down each
"A group of ten to fifteen thousand Moslems in Salonica, known as
Donmeh, tried to circumvent the population exchange. They said they were not
really Turks, but Jews who only practised the Moslem religion. Their appeal was
denied. The Greek government did not dispute their contention, but simply
pointed to the Treaty of Lausanne which defined Turks by religion, not ethnic
origin. At about the same time, a few Donmeh asked Salonica's rabbis to accept
them back into Judaism. They claimed they were really secret Jews. For the last
two hundred and forty years, they said, they had only pretended to be Moslems.
The rabbis, too, denied their appeal. But like the Greeks, they did not dispute
the Donmeh's strange contention. Their refusal was based on even odder grounds:
that (the) Donmeh were "bastards" (in Hebrew: mamzerim). They held
annual orgies where they slept with each other's spouses, charged their rabbis,
and could not be sure who their fathers were. As the Bible says, "A 'bastard'
shall not enter into the assembly of the Lord, even unto the tenth generation.
The Donmeh had no alternative but to leave Salonica... The vast majority joined
Salonica's other Moslems in the exodus to Turkey. There the Donmeh settled in
three cities: Izmir (formerly Smyrna), Edirne (formerly Adrianopole), and
Istanbul (formerly Constantinople). Most continue to live together in their own
neighbourhoods. Some, no one knows how many, continued practising their
strange secret cult. To this day, a few aging Moslems in those cities may still
be praying to the God of the Jews and waiting for the return of his
"Messiah," Shabbatai Zevi."
"The word donmeh means
"convert" in Turkish, but only Salonica's Turks used that name for
the sect. Jews preferred to call them 'minim', a word meaning
"heretics." The Donmeh themselves used neither of those terms,
preferring another Hebrew word: ma'aminim, meaning "believers." This
terminology was an accurate reflection of each group's perspective. In this day
and age, what the Donmeh believed in can only be described as incredible: that
a seventeenth - century false Messiah named Shabbatai Zevi was the redeemer of
Israel, that the path of redemption lay in pretending to be a Moslem, and that
Shabbatai's appearance had invalidated old concepts of law and morality - what
once was prohibited was now permitted. The story of the Donmeh may be the most
bizarre in the annals of Judaism. That voluntary Marranos lived a licentious
double life as Jews and Moslems, in a major European city in our own time,
challenges our credulity. Only by suspending our rational instincts can we
comprehend their faith in a false Messiah otherwise discredited hundreds of
'Acts of Faith' then tries to explain
how such strange events could have come about:
"Mysticism and messianism
used to be the neglected step - children of Jewish studies. Until recently modern
Jews preferred to ignore that "dark side" of their heritage. Jewish
historians, schooled in nineteenth - century rationalism, dismissed it as the
superstition of a misguided few. All this has changed in the last few decades.
Led by the remarkable Gershom Scholem, who virtually "invented"
Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) as a field for scientific research, contemporary
scholars are re - evaluating its place in Jewish history. Long neglected writings
have been brought to light and maligned philosophies have been rehabilitated.
The messianic movement of Shabbatai Zevi is now recognized for its enormous
impact on Judaism. It is considered, in Scholem's own words, 'one of the most
important phenomena of Jewish history and of the history of religions'."
"Shabbatai Zevi was born in
Smyrna, on the Aegean coast of Turkey, in 1626. The first half of his life was
spent in solitude and continence, apparently because of an unpleasant
experience with masturbation at the age of fifteen. (He was later divorced by
his first two wives because he refused to consummate those marriages.) He was a
brilliant student, and was ordained a rabbi at the age of eighteen. Shortly
afterwards he began to study Kabbalah, as did many young rabbis of the day. But
Shabbatai stood out from other young Kabbalists by virtue of his periods of
"illumination," as his followers called them. At odd intervals he
would be filled with an ecstatic, inexplicable joy, when he would perform
strange acts which often violated Jewish law."
On re - examining Shabbatai Zevi's
behaviour, in the light of modern psychology, Ross states that Scholem finds
unmistakable evidence that Zevi suffered from Manic - depression. He says that:
"Shabbatai's 'illuminations' were
merely the manic phases of a personality cycle which also included periods of
deep, unrelieved melancholy, when he was tormented by demonic, often erotic,
anxieties. In his early years Shabbatai only hinted he might be the Messiah. He
was dismissed as a crackpot, and his eccentricities rewarded with
excommunication by several Jewish communities. It was not until shortly after
his thirty - ninth birthday, when he joined forces with an ascetic Palestinian
rabbi named Nathan of Gaza, that Shabbatai was taken seriously. Nathan became
his leading prophet, reinterpreting popular Kabbalistic doctrines to fit
Shabbatai's symptoms. He declared that Shabbatai's soul was waging a battle for
freedom from the forces of evil. In his states of "illumination"
Shabbatai was prevailing; in his "days of darkness" he was not.
Nathan compared the "Messiah"
to Job, who also fell under the influence of Satan before returning to
divine favour. But unlike Job's, Shabbatai's battle would decide the future of
all mankind. A new age was dawning. Nathan's teachings touched a chord of
longing among Jews everywhere. Rich and poor alike flocked to Shabbatai's
banner for a year long revel in 1665 - 66. Pious Jews danced in the streets of
Amsterdam. Jewish gamblers in London and Hamburg offered ten - to - one odds that
Shabbatai would rule the world within two years. Polish villagers packed their
belongings for a trip to Jerusalem, expecting to ride there on the backs of
clouds. Shabbatai's "believers" clashed with "infidels" in
the streets of Constantinople, easily carrying the day. Iranian Jews abandoned
their homes to live in the fields dressed in sackcloth and ashes. Even in far -
Yemen, Jews ceased all business, gave their money to charity, and put on their clothes
for the trip to Jerusalem. In Salonica, perhaps the world's largest Jewish
community, seven to eight hundred girls were married off early in order to
speed up redemption. Salonica's richest merchants gave away their belongings,
touching off an economic crisis from which the city never fully recovered.
Shabbatai himself spent much of that time in prison. He was arrested on his way
to Constantinople to assume the Sultan's throne, just eight months after he and
Nathan had declared his mission. Although treason was ordinarily a capital
crime, the unusual nature of Shabbatai's 'troopless rebellion' apparently
spared his neck."
It should not be lost on us that it
was the 20th century followers of this same seventeenth - century Dajjal, who
eventually succeeded in assuming the Sultan's throne, having first toppled it,
as prophesied, without a blow being struck in anger.
"For seven months in the spring
and summer of 1666, Shabbatai 'reigned' from various Turkish cells. Jailers
were bribed to give him the run of the prisons, which came to resemble palaces
more than jails. Visitors came in the thousands to pray at his feet. During his
manic phases Shabbatai continued to flout Jewish law, reviving the ancient
temple sacrifices on Passover and transforming two of Judaism's most sacred
fasts (seventeenth of Tammuz and the Ninth of Ab) into feasts. Debauchery with
female visitors was rumoured to be frequent; as the Messiah, Shabbatai
abandoned his earlier modesty."
In the September of 1666, Shabbatai
Zevi was brought before the sultan in Adrianopole:
"Thousands of believers
followed, expecting to see the sultan turn over the throne. They were cruelly
disappointed. Shabbatai was allowed to live only by agreeing to convert. The
'Messiah' became a Moslem. His apostasy threw Shabbatai's followers into
turmoil. Most admitted their error and returned to more traditional forms of
Judaism. But a surprisingly large number was unable to. Their messianic
experience had been so profound - actually living and behaving as though the Messiah
had already arrived - that even his conversion to Islam could be rationalized.
Their rationalization - a doctrine of necessary apostasy: that the Messiah had
to descend into the deepest realms of evil in order to return and redeem the
entire world. This doctrine had a personal appeal for many believers, who were
themselves born as or had descended from Marranos in Spain and Portugal. For
them it was no sin to pretend to follow another religion... What mattered most
was their inner reality. In their hearts they all remained Jews, who followed a
new and higher law introduced by Shabbatai Zevi. This 'higher law' is the key
to their theology, which was based on the idea of two Torahs' - two sets of
laws. They considered traditional Jewish law just an 'earthly' Torah which was
only valid until the coming of the Messiah. Shabbatai had replaced it with a
higher 'spiritual' Torah.
Paradoxically, these two Torahs were
considered one and the same. The new spiritual Torah was the previously hidden
inner meaning of the earthly Torah. In effect it was the idea of law without
any specific laws. As Shabbatians explained it, in their rewritten version of
the Jewish credo Ani Ma'amin (I Believe): 'I believe with perfect faith that
this Torah cannot be exchanged and there will be no other Torah; only the
commandments have been abolished...'."
Gullible's Travails. Human nature has
a nasty habit of repeating its past mistakes, and the similarities between the
erroneous ideas of the Donmeh, and those which occurred among the Children of
Israel prior to, during, and after the Exodus from Egypt, are remarkably
consistent. Truly, they would have remained God's Chosen People, had they
maintained the integrity of Torah and upheld its Commandments. And the reason
for their demise is evident from the words of Rabbi Yosef Sonnenfeld (the chief
rabbi of the orthodox anti - zionist community in the Holy Land), for the past
2000 years, the Jews have been lacking the purity required by the Torah, which
is why they no longer qualify for the exalted title of God's 'Chosen People',
nor do they qualify for a state, and a secular state at that, in the Holy Land.
The recent mass - murder/suicide in
Granges - sur- Luce, Switzerland, and Morin Heights, Quebec Canada, of members of
the New - Age cult : 'Order of the Solar Temple', highlights the dangers posed by
all New- Age cults, and long established religious orders who teach other than
strict monotheism. David Icke, who claims to be a Son of the Godhead, is
amongst those venturing into this dangerous territory with his new anti -
book 'The Robots Rebellion'. The following are excerpts from a recent letter
by Islamic Party Leader David Pidcock to him, pointing out that, he, like
Salman Rushdie, is entitled to hold the views he does, but requesting him to look again at the sources
from which he has obtained the highly misleading data he has published on
I seek refuge in Allah, from the
Further to our meeting in Sheffield,
and your recent letter to Geoffrey Basil Smith regarding matters of mutual
interest. I am writing to inform you that, whilst I cannot agree with the
baseless things you have written about Islam in your new book - The Robots'
Rebellion - I acknowledge your right to hold such views, in line with the
Qur'an, which states categorically that, 'there can be no compulsion in
Judging from your pronouncements on
the other divinely inspired religions of Judaism, Christianity, you
certainly have managed to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, it
is my firm belief that, only the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the
truth will set us free. Therefore, only when everything is laid out will we see
where, 'the truth stands out clear from error'. It is my hope that you will
eventually come to recognise the defects in your final analysis, and I welcome
your request to establish a two way dialogue in this regard.
As you know, we have now completed
Geoffrey's sequel - 'Dark Knights of The Solar Cross', his in - depth exposure of
the origins and basis of the New - Age, the result of 23 years experience and
research, part of which he gave to you during your last visit to Sheffield. As
a former member of White Eagle Lodge, and a former Grand Baphomet X, Grand
Master of the Anti - Crowley Maat Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis, 1981 - 1983,
he above all understands the source of the ideas you have put forward.
Particularly the beliefs in Extra Terrestrials or ET's. His close association
with Elizabeth Van Buren, authoress of, amongst other titles, 'Lord of the
Flame', Pat Crowther, authoress and Witch Queen, and his acceptance into their
midst by the Prieure de Sion following his earlier Pro New - Age
publication, 'Knights of The Solar Cross', makes his contribution somewhat
opening of Chapter of which begins:
'They are known as the Magi, the
Masters, the Mahatmas. Some call them the Illumined Ones, the Rishis, the Great
White Brotherhood. They have been Hindus, Buddhists, esoteric Christians,
pagans, Sufis, Zoroastrians, members of all religions throughout the ages.
Their ranks have included Cabalists, Alchemists, Rosicrucians, high - grade
Freemasons, mystics and occultists of every persuasion. In more recent times
their devotees have called themselves Theosophists, Anthroposophists, members
of the Golden Dawn. Even more recently, the 'Masters' have been presented as - and still are
decidedly Extra - Terrestrial' (Knights of The Solar Cross, p.3.)
Geoffrey held similar views to you,
when he wrote his first book (Knights of The Solar Cross) and was similarly
unaware of the possibility that the entities to which you currently refer,
might, in fact, be the manifestations of highly deceptive, human agencies, and
of those of the equally terrestrial, malevolent Ginn (Jinn). For which read
Lucifer, Satan, the Devil, etc., from whom we seek refuge in Allah from their
evil, which He created as part of our test.
Your book echoes much of Blavatsky's
Anti - Christianity, who, as you should know, was a charlatan of the first order.
As Geoffrey Basil Smith points out on page 15 of his new book 'Dark Knights of
The Solar Cross', she resorted to trickery and artificial limbs to fool the
'Occasional appearances of Mahatmas
[ET's] were put down to impersonations by a certain M.Coulomb who used a dummy
head and shoulders for the purpose. M. Coulomb and her husband raised the
damning allegations against H.P.B. ' [i.e. Blavatsky]. But this should come as
no surprise. According to Mr Smith, in Vsevolod Solovyoff's book 'A Modern Priestess
of Isis', Solovyoff claims that he obtained a definite admission of forgery
from H.P.B. regarding the Mahatma letters. ...
She is said to have confessed:
'What is one to do ... when, in order
to rule men, you must deceive them, when in order to catch them and make them
pursue whatever it may be, it is necessary to promise and show them toys?
Suppose my books and the Theosophist were 1,000 times more interesting and
serious, do you think that I would have anywhere to live and any degree of
success, unless behind all this stood 'Phenomena', I should have achieved
She also said that 'Mesmerism is the
most important branch of magic... 'Which, of course, was the device used by the
magicians of Pharaoh to deceive the populace.
He said: "Fear not: for I am with you: I hear and see (everything).
20:47 "So go ye both to him, and say, 'Verily we are apostles sent by thy Lord: Send forth, therefore, the Children of Israel with us, and afflict them not: with a Sign, indeed, have we come from thy Lord! and peace to all who follow guidance!
20:48 "'Verily it has been revealed to us that the Penalty (awaits) those who reject and turn away.'"
20:49 (When this message was delivered), (Pharaoh) said: "Who, then, O Moses, is the Lord of you two?"
20:50 He said: "Our Lord is He Who gave to each (created) thing its form and nature, and further, gave (it) guidance."
20:51 (Pharaoh) said: "What then is the condition of previous generations?"
20:52 He replied: "The knowledge of that is with my Lord, duly recorded: my Lord never errs, nor forgets,-
20:53 "He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.
20:54 Eat (for yourselves) and pasture your cattle: verily, in this are Signs for men endued with understanding.
20:55 From the (earth) did We create you, and into it shall We return you, and from it shall We bring you out once again.
20:56 And We showed Pharaoh all Our Signs, but he did reject and refuse.
20:57 He said: "Hast thou come to drive us out of our land with thy magic, O Moses?
20:58 "But we can surely produce magic to match thine! So make a tryst between us and thee, which we shall not fail to keep - neither we nor thou - in a place where both shall have even chances."
20:59 Moses said: "Your tryst is the Day of the Festival, and let the people be assembled when the sun is well up."
20:60 So Pharaoh withdrew: He concerted his plan, and then came (back).
20:61 Moses said to him: Woe to you! Forge not ye a lie against God, lest He destroy you (at once) utterly by chastisement: the forger must suffer frustration!"
20:62 So they disputed, one with another, over their affair, but they kept their talk secret.
20:63 They said: "These two are certainly (expert) magicians: their object is to drive you out from your land with their magic, and to do away with your most cherished institutions.
20:64 "Therefore concert your plan, and then assemble in (serried) ranks: He wins (all along) today who gains the upper hand."
20:65 They said: "O Moses! whether wilt thou that thou throw (first) or that we be the first to throw?"
20:66 He said, "Nay, throw ye first!" Then behold their ropes and their rods-so it seemed to him on account of their magic - began to be in lively motion!
20:67 So Moses conceived in his mind a (sort of) fear.
20:68 We said: "Fear not! for thou hast indeed the upper hand:
20:69 "Throw that which is in thy right hand: Quickly will it swallow up that which they have faked what they have faked is but a magician's trick: and the magician thrives not, (no matter) where he goes."
20:70 So the magicians were thrown down to prostration: they said, "We believe in the Lord of Aaron and Moses".
20:71 (Pharaoh) said: "Believe ye in Him before I give you permission? Surely this must be your leader, who has taught you magic! be sure I will cut off your hands and feet on opposite sides, and I will have you crucified on trunks of palm-trees: so shall ye know for certain, which of us can give the more severe and the more lasting punishment!"
20:72 They said: "Never shall we regard thee as more than the Clear Sings that have come to us, or than Him Who created us! so decree whatever thou desirest to decree: for thou canst only decree (touching) the life of this world.
20:73 "For us, we have believed in our Lord: may He forgive us our faults, and the magic to which thou didst compel us: for God is Best and Most Abiding."
20:74 Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgment),- for him is Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.
20:75 But such as come to Him as Believers who have worked righteous deeds,- for them are ranks exalted,-
20:76 Gardens of Eternity, beneath which flow rivers: they will dwell therein for aye: such is the reward of those who purify themselves (from evil).
20:77 We sent an inspiration to Moses: "Travel by night with My servants, and strike a dry path for them through the sea, without fear of being overtaken (by Pharaoh) and without (any other) fear."
20:78 Then Pharaoh pursued them with his forces, but the waters completely overwhelmed them and covered them up.
20:79 Pharaoh led his people astray instead of leading them aright.
ayah 46 - 79 of Surah 20, TaHa
A touch of the ET's, therefore, is
simply the result of Terrestrial, Seven Rays, Chaldean Mesmerism, aided and
abetted by the ever - present Terrestrial, Satanic, Genius of the Ginn. We should
not forget that the word Genius comes from the word Genie. Nor should we forget
that 'Mesmerism is the most important branch of magic...' (Blavatsky)
Your attempts on page 52, to
attribute the miracles of The Exodus to some 'disincarnate entity', other than
Allah, or El'ah - The Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jesus and
Muhammad - may His blessings be upon them all, has been the standard ploy, used
throughout history, by all 'purveyors of pretence' in their plans to usurp the
authority of the rightly guided Messengers. Furthermore, on page 53, you say
that the Israelites walked across a sandbar in order to cross the Red Sea,
which Napoleon I later used, but failed
to mention Napoleon's conversion to Islam in 1798, and his complete acceptance
of the Qur'an, which includes verse 78 of Surah 20 quoted above. (stating the
drowning of the pharaoh)
In 'Bonaparte Et L'Islam', by
Christian Cherfils, published in 1914, Napoleon Bonaparte is officially
recorded as having made the following declaration:
'I hope that the time is not
far off, when I will be able to unite all the wise and educated men from all
countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Qur'an,
which alone are true and alone can lead men to happiness...' (Correspondence de
Napoleon Ist, N3148 (Uti sup.).
He was an ardent opponent of interest
and compound interest. When shown a table of compound interest, he reflected
"It is astonishing that this
monster interest has not devoured the whole of humanity. It would have done so
long ago, had not revolution and bankruptcy acted as counter poison."
(Quoted in, Lincoln, Money martyred)
The Battle of Waterloo was the result
of his abolishing interest, and getting the French Sanhedrin, under Rabbi David
Sindzsheim, to agree to its abolition. This went down like a lead balloon in
the banking houses of Rothschild, and Wellington, Rothschild's agent, was
dispatched to prevent a new exodus of slaves. Napoleon had recognised the
superiority of Islam, which can be seen in his 'Code Napoleon', the present
system of law in France, which, with the exception of family law, is entirely
Islamic. And why, one British judge said that: 'In France they have courts of
Justice, whilst we must contend with courts of law'."
Emmanuel Kant, and Goethe, were also
converts to Islam. According to Thomas Carlyle, in 'Heroes and Hero Worship',
"If this be Islam ...do we not all live in Islam?" (p.75
Macmillan, London, 1904 edition.)
There are many more points I wish to
raise, but for the time being I will restrict myself to the above, and look
forward to your comments with interest - the non monetary variety of course.
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